care website. >> is the obama administration confident that the young people, the young and healthy are really signing up and ginning this in order to support the older and more sick people? >> i think they're still concerned about that. >> what happens if we don't have the money? >> if we don't have the money in the next couple of years there's an ease off of subsidies that allow the insurance companies to still charge lower rates. >> so those people who think they got a good deal, their rates are going to go up. >> the rate also go up. the first real judge will be when the rates come out for 2015, 2016. then we'll know in the underpinnings of the obama care law is not working. otherwise the financing doesn't happen. >> nice to see you. rick kline of abc news. >>> and if that isn't grim enough, now states are trying to bail, trying to cut all ties with the botched website. next. to help secure retirements and protect financial futures. to help communities recover and rebuild. for companies going from garage to global. on the ground, in the air, even into space. we repaid every doll